Tuesday, February 22, 2005

How I Came to Knit

I've told this story enough times in person at Stitch 'n' Bitch (where it is of course the second most natural conversation starter after "What are you making?") and for no particular reason except having a little time to kill, I'm going to write it down.

I went to a great big ivy-covered university in Cambridge, Massachusetts with which I had a love-hate relationship. The hate part has been worked through. The love part grew out of finding there people for the first time in my life who actually understood me. Not all of them, of course, but enough so that I no longer felt like The Lone Weird Kid.

Contrary to the popular stereotype, we were not all rich (some of us were - not me), nor were we all geniuses (some of us were - certainly not me). If we did differ from rank and file college students, I think it might have been our affinity for what you could call cozy anachronisms.

For example, my house insisted upon throwing two large parties every year - a waltz party in December, and a swing party in May. Both were black tie. Never mind that maybe twelve people arrived on campus as freshmen knowing how to do either type of dance. It was a tradition, it looked pretty, and so we took lessons and made it happen.

For me, Eliza's knitting fell into the same category as the Lowell House Winter Waltz. I wasn't so much interested in the thing itself as in realizing the mental picture I had of myself doing it.

Eliza herself was a living bit of history, the latest twig on a rich New England family tree old as the hills. Older, perhaps, depending upon which hill you mean. She wasn't matronly or dowdy, but with a slight change of hairstyle she'd have looked perfectly at home in a lace collar and black bombazine skirt, sitting for a portrait by John Singleton Copley. She was the first person my age whom I'd ever seen working a pair of knitting needles, an activity that seemed all of a piece with the rest of her.

It wasn't long before bunches of us were pestering Eliza for lessons. I don't know about the others, but for me knitting seemed to be one more step closer to my youthful fantasy of changing from the ethnic, blue collar boy I'd always been into something much better. Like, say, Abigail Adams. It seems incredibly stupid to me now, but my real motive for going to Harvard wasn't to enjoy access to unparalleled learning opportunities. It was to somehow achieve a racial purification that would render me a candidate for the D.A.R.

(A firm grip on reality has never been one of my strong points.)

Eliza arranged for a group outing to the yarn shop nearby. I remember very little about it, except that the salespeople were not overly friendly. I insisted that I was going to make a sweater, and with Eliza's help selected 6 or 8 hanks of pretty blue yarn. Given that the shop was in Cambridge, most likely it was hand-spun from free-range organically-fed sheep on a lesbian collective somewhere in Vermont. I don't know. I just remember that the cost emptied most of my bank account.

And so needlework evenings began, five or six of us sitting around on beds and chairs. I struggled through the beginnings of a scarf, adding to Eliza's patient "this is a knit, this is a purl" instructions with the diagrams in a cheap teach yourself book I acquired somewhere or other.

I kept at it, even after we got tired of the picture of ourselves knitting around the fireplace like the March sisters. In the first few years after college, I particularly enjoyed being able to knit scarves that met MY definition of what a scarf should be - about nine inches wide, and at least eight feet long. I moved on to mittens, and there I stopped - scarves and mittens, scarves and mittens, for about three years.

Then, gradually, I got discouraged. I have always been a timid person, and trips to the yarn shops in Boston were frightening. My favorite place to go for yarn and embroidery supplies was the Women's Educational and Industrial Union. It's one of those places you're not going to find anywhere in America but Boston. Founded by suffragettes, and run by their spiritual daughters. They were (and I believe still are) in their Victorian-era location, which hadn't changed all that much. Embroidery floss, for example, was dispensed from a gigantic, ornate cabinet with hundreds of tiny drawers in it. The air was hushed, the light deliciously cool and still. I truly loved it, and loved the idea that by shopping there, my money would go to a noble cause.

And every time I went in, I was treated like a rapist.

It didn't matter how often I shopped there, how much I tried to smile and make lighthearted chat, how much I pathetically flashed bits of current projects to show that I was not only serious, but somewhat accomplished (none of the female embroiderers made their own patterns, far as I ever saw). They were not having it. I was a freak, and treated as such.

And as for other men to knit with, or women for that matter, forget it. My friends just thought it was odd, and as any knitter reading this will know - nobody care less about your knitting than a non-knitter. And, finally, I wound up spending five years with a partner - the less said of him, the better - who managed to mess with my brain to the point that all my creative projects stopped dead.

When the whole Knitting Craze started, I felt vindicated. See! I told all you morons this was fun!

So here I am again, finally tackling a sweater. And I'm still having bad yarn shop experiences (although in Chicago, this seems to be universal and unisex) but this time, I'm sticking around.

That's my story. What's yours?

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

I love your story. I don't understand why women are so threatened by men in a knit shop. They need to absolutely get over themselves!

I hope to meet you when I come to Chicago in August for Stitches Midwest.

Jon
http://coloradoknits.typepad.com

goblinbox said...

Wonderful story!

Sahara said...

Franklin, that IS a wonderful story. Far more romantic than my venture into hand knitting. Glad you got over the racial purification thing. Trust me, I completely understand what you mean.

Fortunately in New York, men have a more pleasant experience in yarn shops. I thought Chicago would be better than that. Hmmph. Wait till I get there.

Have you ever been in touch with Eliza since then? She sounds like Saint E.Z.'s niece. Hope she's well and still knitting.

Richard said...

Hey Franklin,

I stumbled across your blog (as a fledgling knitter) and enjoyed it immensely.

Just wanted to chime in on being treated like a rapist in a yarn shop. Although I'm a new knitter, I've sewn my own clothing since about age 11 (a healthy amount of time ago) and the exact same thing happens in fabric stores. Usually the more high-end the fabric store, the more suspicious they are. I have been followed constantly, asked "do you know what you're looking for?" and whispered about more times than I care to remember.

The little bit of devil in me sometimes couldn't resist engaging them in a pointed conversation regarding tailoring or couture techniques (both of which I'd trained in). The expressions of surprise were gratifying, but never translated to warmth. The only time this type of behavior didn't happen was shopping in the garment district in NYC when I lived there. It was heaven.

And I'm a big white boy. Not even any ethnic factors in the mix (unless you count Irish and German, I guess).

So rest assured, any man pursuing a fibre craft of whatever sort is immediately suspect. Heh.

Richard

Christina said...

Franklin,

When you feel a bit wobbly about being a Man Who Knits (or does other fibrey things) just remember that historically it was men who knit and most designers and tailors are men. So there. Then, stick your tongue out.

christine said...

Hi Franklin - I'm a new blogger, but an "old" knitter (relatively speaking), and also live in Chicago. Perhaps I'll meet you someday in some Chicago YS. I've had some yucky YS experiences, too, so I don't think it's entirely gender-related. I enjoy your blog!

Holly @Home said...

Oh Franklin ( lovely name b.t.w) that is so lovely .You should write a book ...I particulary love The March sisters image ..I always wanted to be Joe . Treat yourself to a trip to San Francisco they have some fantastic yarn shops on the net not sure if they are in the "Castro" ditrict ( how cool is that for a name ?) but Mum wants to go one day after she has had her trip to Washington D.C which will never happen as we'd have to kill her to get her on a plane .Keep knitting and making me laugh ..in a warm way .Holly.

Suzanne said...

Too many women have... learned? been taught? I don't know... to fear men. All men. Just because they are men. It's sad. It's just as lamentable an aspect of sexism that so many women think of all strange men as possible rapists (and believe me, I do understand the fact that women have to be careful out there... I'm out there!... I still think it's sad and try my best not to practice it) as that so many men think of women as idiots. Both of these are things I hope we can change in the years to come.

Amy said...

Oh dear. I'm a latecomer to your blog, but if you're in Chicago, you're not too far from Mpls./St. Paul. You ever hit this region, let me know...I know of several yarn shops (it's like a mecca here) that would be delighted to have you visit. Not only would you not be treated like a rapist, you'd be treated like a talented knitter. One that I know of is owned by another talented gay knitter, so for sure you'd be on safe ground there!

Tom Clark said...

Gosh, too bad you didn't live closer to Laguna Beach, California when you took up knitting. The gals at Strands & Stitches there are the nicest ever and they seem to really enjoy my visits. (I'm a guy.) Nobody batted an eyelash at my being in their yarn shop and they never gave me any attitude at all. Quite the contrary actually. I don't know, maybe it's because I never left the place without spending three hundred dollars?

Out here on the west coast a lot of guys are into knitting - it's like the thing to be seen doing among some of the younger surfing and boarding crowd. I crochet and I've yet to meet anybody who thinks it's anything but cool. I guess things must be changing because I go into yarn shops in every city or town I happen to be visiting and the response is always extremely cordial and warm. OK, there was this one yarn shop in New York where I had a hard time getting waited on. But overall...

Love your blog by the way - and it's great to read how other guys got started crocheting or knitting. Thanks for sharing your story!

Tom Clark
pussycap.com

inefishensie said...

i have started to blog just recently, so this is a bit late...but a girl of 21, with an overgrown mohawk, wearing a sweater with 5UCK MY D1.CK written on it is not traated kindly by women in the fabric- and yarn shops either. until they are just watching and following, i ignore them, but if they open their mouth, i give them the evil eye.(=glare at them till they back off)

Yarngirl said...

I just found you're blog and I'm catching up on all that I've missed - this is a wonderful story - and I have to say, I'm sorry you're treated so horribly in yarn shops! I hope that's changed - I've taught a lot of people to knit and only one man - but he was the quickest darn student I ever had and it was one of my favorite experiences. People are people, knitter's are knitters - male or female!

Cara said...

So funny. I learned to knit from one of the tackiest books ever, but it gave me the basics. I would have loved to have learned from a person.

When I lived in San Francisco, I worked in a fabric store, a very funky, cheap fabric store, and the only times a man darkened our door, he either had a shopping list from his wife, or was an idiot who made our life hell (no, cut it perfectly straight, no I want 27 1/2 inches, not half yards, why didn't you tell me I couldn't throw wool felt in the washing machine? cuz it's written on the flipping bolt, and, mr. know-it-all, you could have asked). I was never negatively concerned about men, but if I'd had one who'd known what end of the scissors to hold I might have fainted in shock. I'm always happy to meet men who sew/knit/etc.

I used to have a hard time when I went into hardware stores, as in "why, little lady, what do you want something like that for, you're just going to (cut your fingers / break your nails / put spices on it), and you could get (your husband to do it / find it in a kitchen store) when in fact I was building 200 pound sculptures in clay and wood. Salespeople have gotten less offensive, but not smarter.

Keep knitting, keep wirtting, we'll keep reading.

Cara

Jeanne said...

Great story! Come to Toledo, OH. Our best LYS is owned by a gay male couple who weave and knit. Their fibers are unbelievable and they are open and welcoming to everyone, regardless of age, race, creed, or orientation.

I love reading your blog. You crack me up!

trek said...

And why can't a guy go to a yarn shop? My Number Guy has been to multiple yarn/fiber/spinning shops with me and he loved MSW last year. We also went to Rhinebeck - didn't like that so much.

There is hope, too. For example, one of the shops Number Guy has visited with me in the past year is within 100 miles of our house which employs a male clerk and the yarn/fiber department of the craft store closest to our house is managed by a male clerk as well.

And, for the record, I'm the one who has replaced all of the electrical outlets and lightswitches in our house and most of the plumbing fixtures as well.

Stereotypes - :Þ

PS - and there is smenita again...

Isobel said...

Both my local wool shops are run by men...want to move to England?

Robin said...

I know I'm a couple years late on reading your story. I've been lurking around a bit, for a while. I'm sorry to hear about how people treat you, especially women. Jeez, why can't men knit for petes sake (who is pete, anyway?). I'm also sorry to hear you had a partner who messed you up. You should meet my brother. We live in Western MI, not too far from you!!! Keep on knitting, I love your knitting and your artwork. Dolores ROCKS!!

FugueStateKnits said...

Hi Franklin! I really really love your story! It reminds me of my college days in a much smaller college in the middle of Vermont, probably not far from the lesbian yarn collective, LOL:) Good times.
FWIW, I am not a man, but I have gone to yarn shops only to be treated like a rapist - and I wouldn't know how to do that, LOL! Let's face it, some LYS owners are just plain WEIRD!
Just so you know, one of the first things I did as a college freshman was to teach a guy how to knit. I'll never forget his name: Jesse Ishakawa or something like that - guess I forgot the spelling! oops... but then I believe i was in college a few (dozen) years before you.
In your 100 things part I, I was really really intrigued by what your dad did. He sounds like quite a man:)
Take care,
Joan
a/k/a fuguestateknits

Krystin said...

Hell, if I saw a man in a knit shop, I'd jump all over that.

When I visited Boston this past spring, I ventured into a yarn shop in Cambridge, and one on Newbury St as well. I have to say, I'm a white woman, and I got about the same reaction.

It could have been that I'm just a little southern girl, but you know what? There are some nasty hags out there in the yarn world who need to get the needles of their you-know-whatses.

wenders said...

I love this story about how you came to knit!

And laughed and laughed at your description of the kind of yarn available in Cambridge. And am still laughing... because. Well, because I sort of want to own and run that lesbian yarn collective in Vermont.

And just so you know, I chose my college partially based on the fact that it was the same school that Baby went to. You know, Baby from Dirty Dancing? And I sort of hoped that I'd have a torrid, dancing-filled love afair like she did. (Didn't happen.)

Sally Webster said...

Speaking as a retailer it is shocking behaviour to treat ANY cusomer in a disrespectful way (unless they are rude to you and even then, remain gracious and you win). These ignorant yarn shops just did not deserve your custom.

Anonymous said...

I live in Denmark where men knitting is no big deal, but not very common either.

The most cool LYS in my area has a very competent male sales person. We had a wonderful discussion about how best to fool the security so as to get knitting needles on board a plane.

Ditmar

susan93940 said...

Franklin,

You bring up a point that must be discussed! Knit shop owners who offend. In this economic downturn, some will leave the business entirely because they discourage knitting, even though it is not in their best financial interest to do so.

Having worked in a knit shop, may I offer this to you? Is the LYS near a place where mandatory counseling is taking place? I suspect the counselors encourage their clients to hug, yea molest the yarn so that they can be "in the moment" or something like that. This wears down beautiful yarn and even I was stunned at some of the behavior. Soon the shop owner anticipates all new customers being of strange behavior and motivations other than knitting.

Once I was alone in the shop when a lady and her daughter came in very closely followed by a young man. For a few seconds it looked as if he was in her party. They separated, browsed and soon she made a call on her cell phone,speaking quietly and in a foreign language. Minutes later her husband arrived and stood near the counter like a Marine, ready for anything. I did not think it unusual, but after the young male knitter left the shop the lady came up to me and said that the young man had put a ball of yarn in the pouch he was carrying. She was afraid of him and called her husband on the cell phone.

When the young man came back I met him at the door and told him that there was nothing in the shop for him and he needed to go. He was very angry at this and yelled that he had paid money to take the bus to get to this yarn shop. Absent the owner of the shop, I determined that the proper thing was to call the police and make a report.

There was also the woman who wanted to sit at the store's table all day and look at patterns. She was in such a disorganized, hostile, emotional state she would have discouraged anyone who came near her. She was exited by way of closing the shop for an early lunch and I never saw her again.

Sooooo, cut them some slack when store employees dog your steps. You don't know what the employees had to put up with just before you crossed the threshhold. Good stores can weather the down cycles. Good stores encourage and support knitting and the people who do it. If you feel you have discovered a store with welcoming atmosphere, compliment them, join a class, ask the salesperson questions about their opinions of yarns, their favorites, etc. Then keep them in your prayers and soon they will relax in your presence because you have practiced good will towards them.

I worked in a LYS (currently out of business) where the owner discouraged me from answering some of the simplest questions because she wanted to have customers attend paid classes. I think that this policy discouraged customers. If a customer comes to your store solely to ask a question, at least they are remembering your yarn store as a resource.

Another nail in the coffin for inflexible, offensive shop owners is the internet. Offensive shop owners do not have anything to do with the internet. If they are the only yarn shop in town, local knitters drive further or use the internet to acquire yarn, books, needles, etc. So far, I have not heard of bad internet yarn providers. Inflexible brick-and-mortar shop owners survive because of forces beyond their control, such as firsttime visitors to the area or a general popularity of knitting. The best response on our part is to be ready to walk away without purchasing from an unwelcoming (unbusinesslike) yarn shop.

If you are coming to the Monterey Peninsula in California, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND Monarch Knitting in Pacific Grove--EXCELLENT, worth the extra miles. Perhaps if there is an LYS Hall of Fame somewhere on the internet, Monarch must be added to the list. I also recommend the PassionFish restaurant and the Little Red House restaurant (near Pacific Grove P.O.) as nearby delightful restaurants. There are many good restaurants in Pacific Grove!

Am so looking forward to your blog and podcast!

btw, I'm susan93940m at gmail dot com

JemDale said...

Well so far so good. To be honest though I was really scared of going to the only yarn shop in town. Especially since I live in a farming community in Illinois. But not only did I have a great experience, but I was even invited back by the owner! As far as why did I start knitting...well my daughter deserves the very best from her father. So with that in mind I say why not. Then when my son was born I decided that he should at least know that men are allowed to persue that arts that are considered feminine without fear of being called inappropriate names or being treated as a rapist at the WMCA. Men created knitting so men should be able to enjoy knitting! Viva la Knit

moosemomh said...

I am charmed and delighted to find Panoticon with the varied thoughts and projects you share. don't knit as much since moving to florida, have a very old neighbor who was an amazing knitter whose pride and joy is the white cashmere dress she knitted. to think I stumbled across this site from a link I found while googling sweaters and virginity!

keep up the wonderful work

Anonymous said...

Hi Franklin, GREAT story, absolutely wonderful! Glad you soldiered on with your knitting. I found your blog from a post about the Manly Maze sweater that you tried on at a Knitty Gritty taping. (the sweater is YOU, btw) But now, I must ask . . . what did you think of a sweater knit of hemp yarn? I'm considering knitting it for my BF and would love any info you can provide about how the sweater felt. THANKS!

Tracy at woollies.wordpress.com said...

I've just found your blog and am enjoying it immensely! About the Women's Educational and Industrial Union in Boston--the saddest thing about that wonderful place is that they closed down just about a year before knitting became a craze. If they could have held on just a little longer, they would be flourishing by now. Great location--and there are no other knit shops right nearby. Even so, some members of their staff did have an attitude problem. I never felt truly comfortable there, even as a female knitter who has been knitting since childhood--and who comes from a long line of female AND male knitters.

Stitchinghermit said...

I love to hear knitting stories! I was self taught as well in knitting, was given the basics in crochet by relatives.
Some yarn shops are more stuffy than others, and I think that mosts were more so in years prior to the current knitting boom.
I agree with an earlier reply about Mpls., St. Paul shops, many of them are not stuffy, and welcome all fiber enthusiasts.
At least one shop has a male owner , others employ and welcome men.

Anonymous said...

Hi Franklin! I just read your story on how you started to knit. I knit and shop at Woolly Lamb in Chicago. It's near Northwest Highway and Nina on the northwest side of Chicago. You won't be treated like a rapist there! We're a very friendly group and love newcomers! Come and try it out!

Kathy said...

Thanks for sharing your story, Franklin.Made me smile. You are a wonderful knitter!I am enjoying looking at everything that you have made!

Sunflower Farm said...

I loved your story very brave of you! You are the knitter I can only dream of being.

Jen said...

Yup. I knit in Chicago, I'm female, and am also treated like a rapist at my LYS. They seem perplexed and violated by my odd insistance on buying yarn, of all things.

Wee Quantum Furball said...

How utterly odd. We love our men in the shops down here in Austin - and all I know about sewing and cooking came from my father. Heck, he had to teach mom how to do both - and after 46 years together, she's getting a good grip on both.

My mother taught me to crochet and knit - but, it's always been my father who's picked the fibre. He's just really good at it. And he's always been treated lovely in stores - though he's had an odd look or two, it's always been a joy for him.

I'm so sorry you have had other than pleasant experiences, Franklin.

Miss Sandra said...

What is it about unfriendly yarn shop personnel??? I'm an accomplished knitter. I live in western Massachusetts and I go to one location exclusively because they are the only pleasant shop I can find. No one glares at me or gets "toney" with attitude. WEBS. I love them. 'Nuff said.

Yarnhog said...

I wish I had known you at college. I also went to Harvard, where I never much felt I fit in. No money, no prep school, immigrant parents...whatever was "It", I wasn't. But I was an accomplished knitter, even then. I used to buy yarn at that unfriendly yarn shop myself (using money I earned at my JOB, the necessity for which appalled most of my fellow students, and my tutor, and the head of my department...). I would have enjoyed having a knitting friend. At the time, it seemed to me that knitting was just one more thing that made me not fit in. I guess that part of it isn't limited by gender.

Anonymous said...

Franklin, as always your stories hit home! I am currently traveling, and make a point of stopping in the LYS. I have been to 5 LYS within the region, and out of those 2 of them have treated me graciously! The others have treated me as if I am the "rapist" or less than deserving of the same customer service as the other customers present in the store. These shops should understand that the worst thing that I would even comprehend doing is to ogle and fondle all of the gorgeous yarns. LOL

a w said...

Thank you for sharing your story.
I love the fact that there are men who like to knit. I like to teach my son how when he gets a little older.

Anonymous said...

I love your knitting story! I think you might like mine, in 1990 my big tall truck driving uncle Ewen taught me to knit i was 4 and he was baby sitting me for the day, the rest of the time he was a big scary construction worker. :)

Amberlee said...

Completely brilliant and marvelously written story!

I am hoping that your YS experiences have changed...not just because you are a celebrity either. I am right there with you on how you felt about going into certain yarn shoppes. I didn't feel like a rapist, but I did feel like I wasn't trusted, I didn't exist or wasn't important. I would go into a store with hard earned money waiting to find something luscious only to be treated like a 5 year old being disrespected by adults just because they are kids. One look at my almost 6 ft tall, rather large build of a woman with 3 kids in tow and they would run the other way. No hello or welcome. Just that look of fear and a percieved hope that I would leave as quickly as I came. The hundreds of dollars they lost in purchases.....not just from me, but my children as well.

Fast forward 13 years and here I am...in Pittsburgh...I love it here. We have 2 lovely knitting stores I enjoy shopping at. It was so nice to have people ask what I was interested in or what I wanted to try next. Store owners who were surprised that my kids have been knitting for a few years and so has my DH.....(because they asked and I showed them how.)

My poor DH....he was treated poorly before because he was a man who hand no clue what he was looking for or what he wanted. He was brand new to knitting and the joy of Merino and Alpaca. He could spend an hour or two just drooling over, uh I mean, feeling the yarn. He was a man so either he 1. Must be Gay and we are just hiding it... (yes we have heard that....) *sigh* OR 2. he is really just waiting for the store to close so he can stalk the employees...or steal something, etc. PLEASE! Thank goodness for Natural Stitches and Knit One who have never treated him that way.

Someday I hope that love of fiber will not be prejudiced by race, creed, religion, or sexual orientation by store employees and that more and more of us will open our knitting circles to anyone who wishes to knit, crochet and enjoy the soothing feel of yarn softly swishing between our fingers.

It would be wonderful to meet you! If you ever visit Pittsburgh and would like a place to crash for the night you are more than welcome...I love to cook and we love to meet new people.... :) We love to sit and knit as a family too.

Gail said...

Reading this story AFTER looking at the 2009 calendar ... sweet.

Deborah said...

Our LYS treats men well from what I have seen. I think they are more prejudiced against tattoos (had a temp one one - they treated me differently - lol). It would be fun to have men around knitting. The hubby is definitely not a good sounding board. BTW, I am in Ogden, UT.

Loved It Itches - you rock!

The Chilly Hollow Needlepoint Adventure said...

Male needlepointers are treated as rock gods. You need to get into a higher class obsession probably. [BG}

Seriously, the DAR membership isn't all that big a deal although they have a world class sampler collection someplace. Which I've never seen despite having DAR member relatives. Must come with the membership card which I have never bothered to get.

On the other hand, knitters pull out projects at the drop of a hat. You might be in the right creative activity after all!

Thanks for the witty and fun word journeys.

Jane, waving from the depths of Chilly Hollow where there are unused knitting needles--what am I waiting for? More hours in the day....

SharonKnits said...

Now you Know how I feel when I walk into Home Depot or a Lumber Yard.

infinityexplorer said...

I wish I had a great story like yours and others... but I don't. I learned at about 3 or 4 years old from my grandmum and mum. I come from a family of knitters, crocheters, tatters, embroidererssss & artists etc... so it was sort of inherited it. The one thing I can say is that knitting, crocheting, or whatever art I chose it has been full of fun and laughter and some of the best memories have stemmed from those activities. Sooo I intend to continue until I die or until my hands give out!

Christy said...

Wow. What a great story. I laughed out loud. I didn't have much better experience in yarn shops in the beginning either. Apparently, it was my youth that was a problem. I started knitting just before it was popular and the old biddies in the only yarn shop here just ignored me. I was horrified.
I just bought a new car and had to bring my Dad with me to get attention from the good ole boys at the car dealer. Now I had the same experience from their wives at the yarn shop. I was horrified.
But I caved and brought my mom with me the second time I went to the shop. Wouldn't you know, those old bags tripped over themselves to help her.
Thank God knitting is more popular and there are more yarn shops around. Many now managed by a more open minded group. Now I bring my mom with me for fun and not as a front man.
Thanks for sharing. Love your blog too!

Laurdania said...

My names Lauren C.
and i found your story on how you first came to knit very intriguing.I started off crocheting two or so years ago.I remember this girl was crocheting a blanket in my choir class during one of our very rare free days.and i began to watch her and before i could stop it(as usual) i was asking her what she was doing,how it was done.ect.I kinda felt like i was bothering her with my questions after awhileso i stopped.but i still had thise need to know,that wouldnt leave me alone.so one day i went to michaels and randomly asked one of the people who worked there if they knew of anyone who gave lessons in the area.and to my suprise they had a woman who worked there who gave lessons.so a week or so later i was taking lessons in the back store room of michaels.i quit after 2 lessons because i had caught on and being 15 at the time i didnt want 2 spend unnecissary money.(and money is hard 2 come by at that age{was for me atleast}). I started knitting a year later.i dont really remember why.but i would go up 2 my local library and check out like 5 books and 3 dvds on knitting at a time.and shut myself off in my room and just learn.^_^ i have had some problems in yarn stores.when I go in theres always a few older ladies that look at me like there suprised id be in a store as such.but after awhile of seeing me they dont act as strange.or if they do ive become oblivious to it.

Marisigh said...

My knitter-man is quite a man's man. He hunts, he fishes, he builds houses and runs corporate IT networks. And about two months ago he discovered knitting. He loves the sideways glances and hushed murmers when he strides purposfully into the yarn shop, talking gauge, looking for circular needles or discussing his latest business plan (it involves a product line all hand-knit by men...) I'm sitting here now (as I always do in the evenings) wearing his first-ever creation -- A lovely, variegated sage green scarf/shawl that took him HOURS AND HOURS to make. He made scarves for everyone in the world for Christmas and has moved on to hats and giving me some rather insightful suggestions for the pair of gloves I'm working on. I may be biased -- but I think men that knit are sexy!

MS

sal2154 said...

Franklin - I'm fairly new to the world of yarn. I've been doing needlework (cross stiching, etc.) for a while, and I just started learning to knit, and also got hooked (just can't avoid that pun) on crochet and I CAN'T STOP. I have to say my first experience in a yarn shop I almost felt like I was going to buy porn, but ultimately I felt pretty welcome. It makes me feel good to see that there are other men into it all. Thanks.

Sal

Eliza the Knitter of Yore said...

Franklin! I was sent the link to your blog just this week (by a mutual friend, of course), and thought it would be fun to see if you mentioned our little knitting circle in your description of how you came to knit. Imagine my surprise to learn that not only do you mention it, you talk about me! And my knitting! I of course have my own memories of the group, and for years have shared stories with friends of our raucous conversations....

I feel famous, although I do think I need to clarify that 1) while I may have come across as old New England, I am the child of immigrants two generations back (granted, from England and Germany), and 2) I am not that great or committed a knitter! I seem to have been good at pulling the wool over people's eyes...

Sadly, my frustration at my tension problems has led me to stop knitting for periods of years at a time (and I found another outlet for my creative juices, pottery). My DH has been trying to get me reengaged, by having his sister make me a set of little bags to keep my needles in, and I am trying to knit something for my 13-month old son, but it's a bit of a slog.

In any case, I am thrilled to have contributed in any small way to your being a paragon of knitting greatness! And I'm going to forward your blog on to my 8-year-old nephew, who spends all his free time with the fiber arts!
xoxo Eliza

Susie said...

What a great idea to post your story! One thing I do have to say...come to NYC yarn shops. Here we love men who knit! I'm a new knitter and I'm always interested in talking to other knitters, male or female!

Anonymous said...

Maybe I'm the exception, but I was taught to knit in the '50s by my father - who would lift up the end of small cars so we could put cinderblocks under the axles. (Tennessee) He made the knitting needles himself. Didn't most men know how to knit from WWII and socks? My mother could not knit at all.

aj from Milwaukee

Heidi said...

I just ran across your website in a search for ruanas. Somehow, although I have long enjoyed your cartoons, I had never found your story of knitogenesis before. It made me kind of teary. For what it's worth, not all women who knit feel threatened by knitting men. My grandma taught my Dad (and all the other boyscouts in his troop) to knit when he was a kid. Although none of them have taken me up on it yet, I have also offered several times to teach male friends and acquaintances to knit. And, the neighborhood SnB has both men and women (well, okay, one man and several women, but at least it's a step in the right direction). You would be most welcome if you are ever in the area. The group is listed under "charm city knitters" on Ravelry.
love
Heidi

Jill said...

Thank you for the story. I went to a slightly less venerable ivy-covered institution in New Haven, CT and learned to knit from my roommate Erin, almost a quarter-century ago. I do not patronize the LYS in a neighboring town run by the not-affectionately named Knitting Witch. An adult shopping with a child/children is treated like the barbarian hordes. Of course I know some children are ill-behaved; I am extremely sensitive to my own kids' behavior and threaten, bribe and reward with gusto, even bring them their own books to look at if it's to be a browsing trip. But how will they learn to love fiber crafts if they never go to a store? So it isn't just men who are given the ol' hairy eyeball. My fave LYS has a box of toys under the sit n' knit bench.

Thank you for your work; your writing is a pleasure to read and your wry humor is sadly even more essential in the current climate.

Keep up the good fight.

Anonymous said...

You are awesome :)

Bee said...
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Bee said...

Well, I guess I should start by thanking you for the wakeup call.
Having been born & raised in California, I tend to forget that there is a whole world of people out there who think in terms of 'whitebread/notwhite' or 'him/her' or even 'gay/straight.’
I learned to knit (taught myself out of desperation) when I was 5 or 6; but that is another story, for another time...
Fast forward (many years) I now teach in several LYS's and have to say that our approach is much different than what you encountered.
Since you share stories with us all the time, I thought I’d share one with you.
A few months ago a man came into the store I play at, just looking around. (They pay me for playing there- does that count as work?)
I hit him with my usual opening line, "So, knit, crochet, or do you go both ways?" He laughed, and I could see him relax. He explained that he didn't do either, but that when he found out we were there (in town) he just HAD to stop in and take a look around.
Let me pause for a moment here to mention that he couldn’t have been any more obvious is he’d been wearing a T that said, “We’re here and we’re queer” in rainbow letters across the size XL front. (Yes, some people still do wear those in California, the land of tacky dressers.)
I teased him, "Sorry, but we don't get many men in here, so you won't be allowed to leave unless you learn to do one or the other."
He countered with, "That's OK, I'm not a real man."
Now at this point I'm thinking, "Oh! Honey! Have I got a few friends who would think otherwise," but I kept that to myself.
I said, "That's OK honey, I'm not a real woman. And now you HAVE GOT TO learn to knit, 'cause what this town needs is another stereotype. You’ll be back, ‘cause once you’ve been here, you won’t stay away."
He came back 3 days later looking for me. I only play yarn store on Sundays, (and I run “Thursday night hookers –the crochet group- on (DUH!) Thursday nights) so he had to wait another few days until I was back in the store, but he kept coming back until I was there, and he did learn to knit. His boyfriend teases him about being “Such a chick” but I don’t hear him complain about the scarves, hand warmers and socks he’s sporting these days. I may suggest that the next project be a gag though; he is a nagging bitch… oops! Can I say that here?
In closing, I must say that the only solution for your troublesome yarn store sitch is to move to California. You will be warmer, and warmly greeted; and I could be your new Eliza –although I think you are well past the need, I must say.
On another note, I have experienced the same treatment whilst frequenting my LHS (local hardware store.) I get the “Need some help little lady?” so often that could scream. On one visit I was looking for bearings and copper tubing (another long story) when I was approached by a young man wearing cowboy boots. Now the cowboy boots gave me cause to pause, you see I live in an area with an aggie college and some real “down home” boys. (Sad, too, ‘cause some of them could do with a trip out of the closet.) He approached me like SWAT teams do unexploded devices and stayed at arm’s length from me for the entire conversation. “Do you need some help may-yam’? Can I help you find your husband?” I wonder if that line actually works for him. I explained what I was looking for and he said, “There’s a good machine shop in town with qualified people that could probably make that for you.” At this point I am beginning to be seriously concerned that the steam rising from my ears will set off the smoke detector in the building, but I took a deep breath and replied, “I have a degree in engineering and one in chemistry; I think I can manage, thanks.” I noted the name on his badge for the 3 page letter I sent to the corporate office the next day, explaining what happened and that I did visit the machine shop he suggested and that they were kind enough to sell me the parts that I would have spent $300.00 in their store. The pen is mightier, and all that…
Until we meet again, happy knitting and penning,
B

AliaK said...

great story - I'm glad you got back into it

Anonymous said...

Hey, I went to the same party school you went to . . . and while I don't get the reaction you do in a yarn shop (I'm female) nevertheless, the couple times I've strolled in wearing my Navy uniform I swear I've gotten a similar one!

How anyone could survive shipboard life without SEVERAL projects on the needles is beyond me . . .

Kris said...

Your story is very interesting. I have to agree with how you believe a scarf should be... even tho I've just started, my scarf is amost 2 feet wide and one ball made about 9 inches of scarf.. I learned that I dont need to make the stitches go all the way down the needle lol.

The Orange Fibre Company said...

It's like Cara says about women in hardware stores - we get the same crap. I probably have more (and better) power tools than most of the guys who try to 'help' me in the average hardware store, but they'll never know that. And I'm a knitter and spinner, too.

How did that go, something about books and their covers... =)

Sandi said...

Like so many who have posted replies to your story, I had to reply to say I Too have had the "cold stare" and the "what is taking you so long" look or the looks of impatience, despite the fact I was buying a fair amount of yarn for quite a nice price. I have been to a yarn store in Arlington, Ma. and one in Littleton, Ma and same thing. I like men who knit, quilt or sew. My ex husband taught me how to sew. Men who work in fibre are usually come up with pretty interesting stuff. the LYS's seem to have some cold weird people.

sockjoan said...

I trust you've come across the book "A History of Hand Knitting" by Richard Rutt (who is, or was, the Anglican Bishop of Leicester, England). Rutt was taught to knit as a lad by his grandfather, to keep him out of mischief in wet weather. I taught my grandson to knit when he was about seven; the local tough guy sneered, but he didn't end up with a groovy beanie. Said grandson now teaches his girlfriends to knit, crochet and spin.

mamakin said...

New here & love your story. I taught my son & dtr how to crochet & knit when they were very young. In HS my son was the only guy in the Key Club who joined the group to crochet blankets for preemies. Asked how he felt being the only guy in the group- he was fine with it & anyone who wasn't would be invited to see if they could do it....awww they couldn't,what a shame. My dtr taught her 4th grade teacher how to knit & they started a little group that would knit or crochet during lunch break. These skills should be taught in all schools to all kids. They are more than relaxing, they teach math skills, dexterity, & problem solving among other things. They're 20 & 23 now. Oh, & they both also cook-even though 'everyone knows' all the best chefs are men, I made my daughter learn too. Gotta get past those barriers somehow!

Anonymous said...

Enjoying your blog- stumbled upon it while looking for a sweater pattern for my husband.'
I never thought anything much of guys knitting-my Grandpa learned to knit in school in Lithuania and was better at it than my Grandma she said he used to make gloves and such-I'd love to be able to make gloves!!
Thanks for sharing.
Cheryl
aka
knitnut@hotmail

adriene said...

Dude, everytime I read this, I just want to march into that store and shake them for being so rude to you - and any other customer, male or not! I'm thinking flags, protest cards, or just a sprinkling of good common sense!

I hope people treat you better from now on. I got your back. :)

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Kneedle Pet said...

Hi Franklin,
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