tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post114494109049735445..comments2024-03-19T03:17:32.682-04:00Comments on The Panopticon: Panopticon Celebrity Smackdown V: When in RomeFranklinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03670441931649806878noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-14458753986078700832008-11-23T12:52:00.000-05:002008-11-23T12:52:00.000-05:00Anonymous/struedelhund@yahoo.de, Did you ever find...Anonymous/struedelhund@yahoo.de, Did you ever find your answer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-82916127907246681502007-12-25T17:09:00.000-05:002007-12-25T17:09:00.000-05:00It's quite difficult to find the sources for that ...It's quite difficult to find the sources for that story. In Juvenal, one can find that Messalina worked, on a regular basis, as a prostitute, but there's nothing about the competition with Scylla. In Pliny (10,172), the competition is narrated, but the name Scylla does not occur. So if anyone knows, where the name "Scylla" is to be found, please tell me. (struedelhund@yahoo.de). ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1145244617368555752006-04-16T23:30:00.000-04:002006-04-16T23:30:00.000-04:00Under her doting husband's nose? The emperor?I fin...Under her doting husband's nose? The emperor?<BR/><BR/>I find it amazing that she could have screwed a good part of the male population without her husband finding out. The men didn't talk? The sensation of sex, mingled with the fear of death, must be awfully powerful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1145023666197610802006-04-14T10:07:00.000-04:002006-04-14T10:07:00.000-04:00I really think Cathy would be too much of a a worr...I really think Cathy would be too much of a a worrier and a talker in bed to really do much schtupping. Thel on the other hand seems to understand the value of keeping quiet and demure as well as the improtance of keeping up certain family values, which might actually by a disguise. In bed, Thel might be quite the vocalist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1145021191675396892006-04-14T09:26:00.000-04:002006-04-14T09:26:00.000-04:00Now I know why you did Classics at College!!!!!! ...Now I know why you did Classics at College!!!!!! Imagine an essay on that contest .<BR/>Too young to remember I,Claudius (sternly religious parents wouldn't watch it anyway), and have not idea who these two contestants are (my offspring have my brains now!).<BR/>But I do wish I had either ladies energy and stamina though would probably not use either for the activity those ladies opted for (not to that extent anyway!!)<BR/>Oh well back to the knitting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1145020464973113712006-04-14T09:14:00.000-04:002006-04-14T09:14:00.000-04:00i vote Thel cuz anywoman that can handle four kids...i vote Thel cuz anywoman that can handle four kids, a household and a hubby can handle all nighters; plus, you know, the quiet ones run deepmarie in floridahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14825004003979843667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1145018802978092002006-04-14T08:46:00.000-04:002006-04-14T08:46:00.000-04:00According to an online calorie counter, if we gues...According to an online calorie counter, if we guesstimate Cathy at 145 lbs., she burns 62 calories per boink. 62 x 25 = one Chipotle Grill run.<BR/><BR/>My money is on Cathy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144999320861309092006-04-14T03:22:00.000-04:002006-04-14T03:22:00.000-04:00It's in "Claudius the God", by Robert Graves - but...It's in "Claudius the God", by Robert Graves - but Graves specifically says in his introduction that he hasn't made anything up, and lists a selection of his sources. But Graves may or may not be telling the truth at any point, and finding a story like this in classical sources has less to do with anything Messalina and Claudius may actually have done than with characterising them as Bad Girl and Weak Emperor. (I once wrote an essay on how Suetonius' deathbed scenes effectively sum up the emperor in question. Good emperors die in bed of natural causes. Claudius was poisoned by his next wife, who was also the mother of Nero. Nuff said)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144997365716120552006-04-14T02:49:00.000-04:002006-04-14T02:49:00.000-04:00My resources don't reach to the source of the stor...My resources don't reach to the source of the story, either. Juvenal X has an amusing passage about how Messalina used to sneak out at night and serve as a Working Girl in a local brothel, but nothing that I can see about a competition. I don't have Suetonius' "Claudius" -- could the story be in there? Could it have been (plausibly) invented by the author of "I, Claudius", whose name escapes me at the moment?<BR/><BR/>The fact that there are other people among your commentators who have heard of Messalina (but not, in my case, of her competition with Scylla) and not of the cartoon characters, makes me feel much as God must have when he saved Sodom.<BR/><BR/>Love JeanJeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12038517988391228260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144997259571862602006-04-14T02:47:00.000-04:002006-04-14T02:47:00.000-04:00As a relatively newlywed, Cathy is probably to wra...As a relatively newlywed, Cathy is probably to wrapped up in that. Hell, she's usually too wrapped up in herself anyway. Underneath all Thel's quiet domesticity, though, beats the heart of a wild beast. It is always the quiet ones, after all.Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18047049720897209506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144979703320888542006-04-13T21:55:00.000-04:002006-04-13T21:55:00.000-04:00Thel is a mom and she's got stamina and determinat...Thel is a mom and she's got stamina and determination over Cathy's whining. I can just see the I dunno ghost/figure floating around when Daddy asks Billy where is Mommy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144974529060089162006-04-13T20:28:00.000-04:002006-04-13T20:28:00.000-04:00Hmm, never heard of Thel and I hate Cathy. Which ...Hmm, never heard of Thel and I hate Cathy. Which one knits? Obviously the knitter would win, she has stamina and focus and besides, fn men is SO much easier than fn lace.Taphophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04010309734967633575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144971561921936502006-04-13T19:39:00.000-04:002006-04-13T19:39:00.000-04:00ugh, i have to vote for cathy, although it's the l...ugh, i have to vote for cathy, although it's the lesser of two evils, but all I can think of is "family circus. bottom right hand corner, just waiting to suck"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144967098908421092006-04-13T18:24:00.000-04:002006-04-13T18:24:00.000-04:00wait a minute -- did anony say that Jon, rene and ...wait a minute -- did anony say that Jon, rene and yvette will give out for chocolate? (wish I had known...)<BR/><BR/>And Jon? You have to keep up, honey -- Cathy's married to Irving now.<BR/><BR/>Franklin, I didn't know that you were old enough for Messalina to have given you her autograph ;)<BR/><BR/>I feel like Thel - so many little things needing attention.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13896225590676052139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144965986580332002006-04-13T18:06:00.000-04:002006-04-13T18:06:00.000-04:00I can't imagine either of your characters even get...I can't imagine either of your characters even getting through with guy number one. I can't vote. Well, the Family Circus mom at least had to have a few rounds to have those kids. I doubt if Cathy ever scored.<BR/><BR/>How about June Morgan (Rex's wife) vs. Mary Worth?<BR/><BR/>Page Fox (Foxtrot) vs. Luanne?Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04278529449974055377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144965379647670002006-04-13T17:56:00.000-04:002006-04-13T17:56:00.000-04:00I believe it may be in Juvenal - or at least he ca...I believe it may be in Juvenal - or at least he calls her a whore in satire 6.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144962102486521732006-04-13T17:01:00.000-04:002006-04-13T17:01:00.000-04:00I knew there was a reason why I spent all that mon...I knew there was a reason why I spent all that money on my very own Oxford Classical Dictionary. It's just that at the time I thought it would be more to do with studying for an MA than checking references for comparative strangers on other continents.<BR/><BR/>Oh well. I don't know if I'd manage to buy it now. It was in those long-ago (3 years) days when, although I <I>could</I> knit (I cannot remember not being able to), I did not have or need a yarn budget.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144961128832189232006-04-13T16:45:00.000-04:002006-04-13T16:45:00.000-04:00This has absolutely nothing to do with today's pos...This has absolutely nothing to do with today's post, Franklin, but did you see the reference to Dolores in the April 10 New Yorker? It's in The Talk of the Town on page 30 in the entry titled "Pinup Dept.-Whipped Again." The whipped cream must have been a bit messy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144960648095851452006-04-13T16:37:00.000-04:002006-04-13T16:37:00.000-04:00Thel. She's _had_ those four kids, and she likes ...Thel. She's _had_ those four kids, and she likes to wear tight sweaters, and she's cooped up with the kids for hours on end, with no other outlet for her pent-up emotions.<BR/><BR/>Cathy, on the other hand, dithers, whines, and scares men away with her weird obsessions, and would probably rather be eating ice cream in her yoga pants.Ranahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11041247235612040796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144959281957362272006-04-13T16:14:00.000-04:002006-04-13T16:14:00.000-04:00Cathy's a weenie. But Thel, she reminds of that s...Cathy's a weenie. <BR/><BR/>But Thel, she reminds of that sickly poem about how god making mothers.<BR/><BR/>http://www.dobhran.com/greetings/GRinspire183.htm<BR/><BR/>LaurieMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144955941200931522006-04-13T15:19:00.000-04:002006-04-13T15:19:00.000-04:00thel is SUCH a priss - bet ya she "lies back and t...thel is SUCH a priss - bet ya she "lies back and thinks of england" when her spouse demands her to give it up. and she has NEVER slept around; religious girls always submit to their spouses.<BR/><BR/>now, cathy, on the other hand, has had several guys in her lifetime. true, she has trouble buying clothes and working out. but give her some chocolate and she is yours for the taking!<BR/><BR/>ditto rene, yvonne, and jon.<BR/><BR/>what does dolores have to say on this issue?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144953645398723022006-04-13T14:40:00.000-04:002006-04-13T14:40:00.000-04:00It has to be Thel. Ever since she had the new doo,...It has to be Thel. Ever since she had the new doo, she been feeling sexy. I bet she's a screamer too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144953350512770942006-04-13T14:35:00.000-04:002006-04-13T14:35:00.000-04:00Ditto Jax and Stitchy. I doubt Cathy could even ha...Ditto Jax and Stitchy. I doubt Cathy could even have sex with the lights on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144951952149003672006-04-13T14:12:00.000-04:002006-04-13T14:12:00.000-04:00I'm voting for the woman with real stamina. A mom...I'm voting for the woman with real stamina. A mom of four who isn't a blubbering fool by the end of the day could easily outlast a whiner who can't make it though choosing her spring purse without collapsing in exhaustion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10901468.post-1144951429112778122006-04-13T14:03:00.000-04:002006-04-13T14:03:00.000-04:00Definitely the Family Circus lady. When Dad comes...Definitely the Family Circus lady. When Dad comes in and asks "Who's that f*cking your mother?" Billy will reply, "Not Me."Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651035210994960810noreply@blogger.com